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Earlier elements that bands need to return to.

#1 Post by TraneDeracs » 28 Sep 2009 18:52

Paradise Lost - I like their newer material quite thoroughly, but overall I wish they'd return to their powerdul death metal styles.

Katatonia - Dance of December Souls was a brilliant album. I enjoy their newer rock albums as well, but I still yearn for those old days.

In Flames - Where do I even begin... less hip hop guitars and more musicianship please. Also remember: CD's about the apocalyse told in an artistic, metaphoric style > Making videos with chain linked fences, pit pulls, hummers, sluts, and something "urban".

Children of Bodom - The only songs I still listen to every now and then are "Deadnight Warrior" and "Bodom Beach Terror".
The problem with them is that they tried to be something more than a cheesy 80's-ish band with a rock and roll Halloween style there. And please, stop making covers.

Therion - No complaint here, this band has done no wrong. However I'd love to see some earlier death metal pieces merged with their modern symphonies.

Opeth - No complaints whatsoever again..Watershed and Ghost Reveries are brilliant albums, loved Damnation, but I would enjoy seeing some pieces of the original first albums in there. The "just making it up as we go along" feeling in other words.

Dark Tranquiliy - Void of Tranquility is such a genius song...but still no regrets for where they are heading.

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#2 Post by Orodaran » 28 Sep 2009 19:17

"Need to" or you would selfishly "want to"? :P

Anyway, out of your list, I only listen to Therion and I think that the gruntled vocals of Tyhpoon on Sirius B / Lemuria is exactly the amount of harsh vocals I can take on each album of them.
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#3 Post by Wicked Child » 29 Sep 2009 16:46

I want Maiden to make fast songs again!

I want BG to make speedy/thrashy songs again!

I want Helloween to put Kiske back on vocals! :mrgreen:
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#4 Post by Joost » 29 Sep 2009 16:49

Wicked Child wrote:I want Maiden to make fast songs again!

I want BG to make speedy/thrashy songs again!

I want Helloween to put Kiske back on vocals! :mrgreen:
In other words, you just want it to be 1988 again. :P
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#5 Post by Palantyre » 29 Sep 2009 20:40

Joost wrote: In other words, you just want it to be 1988 again. :P
A reasonable wish, if you ask me. :)
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#6 Post by corrupted old gnom » 29 Sep 2009 21:26

Palantyre wrote:
Joost wrote: In other words, you just want it to be 1988 again. :P
A reasonable wish, if you ask me. :)
indeed!
Knightrider of Doom wrote:I want Power Quest to make powermetal again instead of 80s synth rock!
i never listen to the newest release - and rarely to their third album
it's neither metal nor rock and just doesn't match together


how should i put it?
i miss the patience of the earlier years
nowadays everything has to be speedy - and i mean in a weid way...not a good way - and overloaded with keys and stuff
at least the latest scorpions, judas priest and doro bring back what i've been missing!
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#7 Post by Joost » 29 Sep 2009 21:31

corrupted old gnom wrote:nowadays everything has to be speedy - and i mean in a weid way...not a good way - and overloaded with keys and stuff
Probably a significant contributing factor in why I got bored with metal in general during the last couple of years.
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#8 Post by Lord Borbak » 29 Sep 2009 22:43

Exodus needs to kick their Hardcore shouter out of the band, drop the boring breakdowns/groovy riffs and find a decent producer who knows how to produce a Thrash album.
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#9 Post by Palantyre » 29 Sep 2009 23:53

I've said this a thousand times, and probably will another thousand more, but:

I want to hear the bass guitar being used as real instruments again! In the way we hear it with Iron Maiden, older Helloween, etcetera.
Nowadays, if you're lucky or have REALLY good ears, you can just barely make it out as a "dun dun dun dun dun" in the background, supporting the drums and nothing else. That's BORING! :x

At least Hibria has it right, I hope at least some bands learn from them...
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#10 Post by Joost » 30 Sep 2009 00:31

Palantyre wrote:Nowadays, if you're lucky or have REALLY good ears, you can just barely make it out as a "dun dun dun dun dun" in the background, supporting the drums and nothing else. That's BORING! :x
That's mostly only the case with metal and (mainstream) rock, though.
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#11 Post by Palantyre » 30 Sep 2009 00:32

Joost wrote: That's mostly only the case with metal and (mainstream) rock, though.
Well, this topic is in the metal section, isn't it? :P
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#12 Post by Joost » 30 Sep 2009 07:53

Damn. I should've remembered to rename the metal section into something else. What about a polka section?
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#13 Post by Palantyre » 30 Sep 2009 11:25

Fusion jazz section!
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#14 Post by Bender B. Rodriguez » 30 Sep 2009 14:23

Lord Borbak wrote:Exodus needs to kick their Hardcore shouter out of the band, drop the boring breakdowns/groovy riffs and find a decent producer who knows how to produce a Thrash album.
yeah,and put Zetro back there!though he'd probably leave after a while.
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#15 Post by Wicked Child » 30 Sep 2009 15:55

Palantyre wrote:I want to hear the bass guitar being used as real instruments again!
Tell it to the Bards! :P
Palantyre wrote:At least Hibria has it right, I hope at least some bands learn from them...
Right on!
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#16 Post by Wicked Child » 30 Sep 2009 15:56

Bender B. Rodriguez wrote:
Lord Borbak wrote:Exodus needs to kick their Hardcore shouter out of the band, drop the boring breakdowns/groovy riffs and find a decent producer who knows how to produce a Thrash album.
yeah,and put Zetro back there!though he'd probably leave after a while.
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Going to see them in about a month.. are they that bad nowadays? I've only listened to Tempo Of The Damned, from their most recent works, and I liked it..
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#17 Post by Lord Borbak » 30 Sep 2009 23:47

Bender B. Rodriguez wrote:
Lord Borbak wrote:Exodus needs to kick their Hardcore shouter out of the band, drop the boring breakdowns/groovy riffs and find a decent producer who knows how to produce a Thrash album.
yeah,and put Zetro back there!though he'd probably leave after a while.
Fuck yes, Zetro is the man. Well, Baloff killed everyone, but anyway he won't come back obviously. But Zetro, fuck I liked his vocals so much. He did sound like a truly pissed off Bon Scott. :twisted:

Wicked Child : Tempo was awesome, despite the awful song Throwing Down and the nu-metal vocal style of Forward March. If you want to have an idea of their next 2 albums, imagine Throwing Down lasting for 6-7 minutes. Now imagine 10 songs like that per album... *pukes*

And and avoid Let There be Blood, their re-recording (read : rape) of Bonded By Blood. Gayer than AIDS. It's tuned lower, the whole album has that sterile boring triggered and clean modern production that kills any aggressivity. And the hardcore shouter they now have on vocals fails miserably.

Really man, just do like I do. Pretend the band died in a horrible bus accident after the Tempo of the Dead tour. You'll thank me later.
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#18 Post by Wicked Child » 01 Oct 2009 02:04

He did sound like a truly pissed off Bon Scott.
Hell, yeah! That was exactly my thoughts about this guy! He's totally rocks.. it's a shame that Exodus can't have him.. Also he sounds quite similar to the Overkill singer, which I like too..

And, well, about their gig guess I'll just have to wait the whole thing until Kreator steps in and kick their asses! :twisted:

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#19 Post by Joost » 01 Oct 2009 08:10

Palantyre wrote:Fusion jazz section!
Yes, but fusion jazz can be pretty damn awesome and I'm unsure if the forum regulars would be able to fathom such awesomeness.
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#20 Post by Spectrum » 03 Oct 2009 13:44

Knightrider of Doom wrote:I want James (Metallica) to use his rough vocals again!
I agree. I might have liked Death Magnetic if not for James's sucky singing these days.

I also want Hansi of Blind Guardian to use his growly/screamy voice more, like he did on ANATO/NIME/IFTOS.

I want Iron Savior to stop sucking so bad and release epic power metal like Dark Assault again.
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